That did not do so much though, less than I'd hoped. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. So I did landings in Nova Scotia (which turned into a Gallipoli) an then as a diversion invaded in Florida. Guess it all depends on if the US are still isolationist or turned into the current day World Police by that point. Then I attacked down the St. Lawrence and out of Nova Scotia with more landings and used nukes against some unit stacks. Discussion I always found it weird that regardless of how much of an army that is still fighting and loyal, the only qualification for capitulation is victory points. Gameplaywise I guess carpet bombing with nukes and attacking simultaneously from Mexico and Canada with basically all your forces and having total air superiority. I'd say capitulation needs a rework, not "the whole game". It may not display this or other websites correctly. As Germany I landed in Canada first in 1945 but got bogged down fast. UK attacked me and launched an invasion, but I pushed them back. I usually go through the carribean where you can build quite a few airports on the islands. Theres no need for too much "realism" on this. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. When you reduce a family tree to a family bush, you can't hide as much underneath. Then they realise the pressure in Mexico and I pull very hard into 1945. 8 8 comments Best Top New Controversial Q&A scootiegoorby 3 yr. ago Unless another country on your faction retakes your territory you're done. As the Soviets (because it happens later) this generally includes nuking a lot of airfields as this is a very effective way to destroy enemy aircraft. what happens to them? Later after some Atlantic fleet actions I get enough space to landing in alabama, I make a big beach had and I get a year of attrition. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. The absolute worst case scenario that you want to avoid is the US with 1000 divisions in the continental United States. I think as the war was ending Germany's strategy was to split the Western Allies by creating resentment between the USA and UK and negotiate a peace deal. And that is my point - Even though the country had surrended, you still had pockets of resistance fighters hellbent on fighting till their death, and some commanders with some final plans they desperatedly tried to go through with. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. my_name_is_iso 3 yr. ago. I tend to take everything in the north - Iceland, Greenland, Newfoundland; Bermuda because it covers all the central coast and a skim of Caribbean islands in the south (the main run of islands plus Turks and Bahamas). New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Himmler wished to negotiate a peace with the Western Allies before capitulation. It is often possible to completely drain the USA armed forces overseas in different theatres world-wide. US send massive troops down and it was a slaughter in the bad terrain and went really nowhere for a long time. Or. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In Hearts of Iron 4, when a country is defeated, it "capitulates" in what seems to be an unconditional surrender, What it doesn't mention is why this is; a major part was because Poland never surrendered and never made peace with Germany (or the USSR). It would be more relevant and historical to implement gas warfare in HoI4 (from WW1) instead of implementing features based on events over 30 years before the game even starts. Launching five or so simultaneous invasions and putting as much of these heavy divisions in the breaches as you can does the trick. We swept them away easily, but still shouldn't Countries that capitulated be out of the game completely? A conqueror is always a lover of peace, he would prefer to take over the country unopposed. So, until you've made those other major countries capitulate you can't end the war. There is an easy trap to fall into once the great war starts. Same here, but Australia is where it really ends, though. UK/France defeated in 1939 (having started in 1939). Why would you surrender if you live on a decent sized island, and have naval and air superiority? Of course, partisans are hardly a threat in vanilla anyway, and occupation is so generous as to be insane. German forces kept fighting in pockets after Berlin fell. This takes time and whether it happens or not is often very circumstantial. Archived post. While Italy gave a one-sided ceasefire, Romania switched sides (something else that doesn't happen in-game) and France and Belgium surrendered unconditionally, I would like to recommend a 6. Thread necromancy is generally not allowed. They should abandon those plans just like Nazi-Germany did with the invasion of Britain. I don't know how to win this war anymore. One is the US AI often keeps a lot of divisions in the UK. But the AI makes one big mistake: it's divisions lack hard attack.
How does capitulation even work? : r/hoi4 - Reddit The wiki say Allies will surrender when all major factions capitulate, Does the land become mine after the war or it belong to the facist British? A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Very easy if you Sealion before the USA joins and get Canada as a part of the peace or as a puppet. All rights reserved. Privacy Policy. do i need to deal with them? In a war, a faction will only surrender when all its participating major countries capitulate. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. You must log in or register to reply here. Reddit, Inc. 2023. No, seriously I think every single country must capitulate to make any peace deal with the allies. For more information, please see our The Allies also won't surrender even when UK and Netherlands capitulate. Please.-. Supply is just too bad. lvl 5 or higher.
I think countries should stop fighting after they have surrendered. i am pretty new and i was always struggling to defeat the UK, so i hatched a plan, put all my navy and luftwaffe in the english channel, prepare a naval invasion during peace time, fabricate on poland (not england), wait for invasion and war to be ready. What if they added a feature so that the amount of units with good org and strength contributes to the capitulation benchmark. Go to the war screen and then however over somebody that hasn't surrenderd yet.
Can someone explain capitulation and occupation to me? : hoi4 - Reddit Go to the war screen and then however over somebody that hasn't surrenderd yet. I bet New Zeland after Australia Another silly game design choice.
Countries keep fighting after capitulating :: Hearts of Iron IV General Not being able to get green air will hurt, but you should be able to hold if your divisions have enough org which mechanised can help with. I manage to invade all of UK but the land is occupied by the British Empire even when they are not in my faction. Cookie Notice Not unworkable, just kind of unsatisfying.
Realistically speakin, awakening the Ogru-Jahad or enlisting the help of the Klingon empire. You are using an out of date browser.
In the Prigozhin Affair, Putin Is the Big Loser and Biden the Clear When posting in this color I'm doing so in my role as Moderator. One noticeable thing is, that the US-AI will not building any synthetic refineries, so you are able to cut off their rubber supplies, and with no rubber, they will build (almost) no airplanes. 19. How many they need for you to capitulate is determined by your war support, the higher your war support, the more victory points they need. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Few monts later Vichy France has fallen and capitulated. Scan this QR code to download the app now. and our Air warfare is performed by air wings containing airplanes, who may compete over the air superiority in a certain strategic region with the enemy, bomb enemy factories, airfields and infrastructure, provide close air support for land divisions and attack ships that are either docked or on active missions. Rudolph Hess wanted to negotiate a peace deal with the UK in 1941.
Warfare - Hearts of Iron 4 Wiki You are using an out of date browser. Was only Canada after i took down the USA. In my Germany game the only Allied Nation left is Australia and they won't surrender. All the aircraft you don't destroy here will turn up later. If so how do you do that and also deal with he allies landing in 1942 ?
china is insane to capitulate : r/hoi4 - Reddit So its perfectly fine to have the game simulate that, well at least in theory (theres still the question of game balance which might be . Also I did landing in Yucatan thinking I could just walk over Mexico but I was wrong. Last time it took me beyond the urals to get them to capitulate. And fight. The AI then got somewhat confused but still put up a tough fight. Someone already mentioned it, but I think it would be nice to rehash, The historical effect of partisan is often overestimated in terms of military impact (destruction, sabotage, inflicted casualties), but they did had a great value for intelligence. So, until you've made those other major countries capitulate you can't end the war. This is stupid. 2 it's can be horribly ugly. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. They lost about 500k to my 30k. There's a fairly common mechanic in hex and counter games for the US to pull out of the European war, even the Pacific in some cases, if things get too hairly. Even after the official surrender. Privacy Policy. As Germany i conquer all of europe for myself because i think AI allies are a worser enemy then the actual enemy in low supply areas. The trick to the actual invasion is to acquire bases that you can launch naval invasions from. Capitulation from what I have seen is that the country gives up is main land but will still operate from overseas colonies if they exist, that's why they can still attack you. Cartographer, celeste. When France, Italy, Belgium or even Romania opted out, their armies generally stopped resisting overnight. UK become Allies leader faction and Netherlands join. What I found a little sad is that there's no way to make a separate armistice (or create puppet countries during the war). They build tons and tons of divisions and have the manpower and industry to equip them. I (think I) understand that this is in game just as a way to simplify history, but it's excruciatingly ahistoric, and strongly contributes to all wars besides a handful of scripted ones being fights to the death, as absurd as it is for any country to annex half or even all the USA or USSR, ect. The US will still have some land left before they capitulate but that's usually after occupying the entire east coast up to Texas and reaching San Francisco, and by that time all that's left is farmland. Privacy Policy.
Isn't that pretty much what happened in WW2? For example, I played as Sweden and I invaded Finland. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. We destroyed every Axis division in Africa and went on to invade Europe. Perhaps a negotiated peace would have been the end of the war.
Just be careful to put your navy on convoy defense and to invade a large enough port. I staged a coup in UK and the declare war on the Allies. Heavy tanks with upgraded armor and heavy armor AA are your friends. Archived post.
Capitulation Based on Fighting Strength? : hoi4 - Reddit I cannot remember if I did another landing at the east coast but eventually I moved down from New Englans and up from the Carolinas into better infra and got . Aka: France falls but then D-Day happens you come back. if it's historical, most of their shit will be in France. ago. Major powers refer to ones with the highest number of factories, within the top 7 or 70% of the average of the top 7, updated monthly.
I love that I made the UK capitulate before Poland. then i invaded poland and launched seelwe, once england declared on me. I build ports and airfields wherever I could and reduced supply needs as much as possible. All rights reserved. . Cause it's kinda silly to have to invade the U.S. Just because they joined the allies before I could finish off the last allied minor nation. This leads us to partisans. Yeah gotta say this is somewhat annoying "Well, you eradicated communism, kicked our arse in Asia, wiped us out of Africa, kicked the British off their Isle, took all of europe and scandinavia, USA suffers from Invasions by spain and Italy - but no, no we won't call it a day! The US will launch constant suicide invasions into western europe assuming the UK still exists. Privacy Policy.
are troops of defeated nations still fighting and for whom? : r/hoi4 Mod that removes capitulation? : r/hoi4 - Reddit Privacy Policy. and our Archived post. of the Kriegsmarine, as well. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Capitulation Based on Fighting Strength?
How to capitulate USSR ? : r/hoi4 - Reddit But I took and build up Newfoundland and Bermuda to be able to get green air over the area., thus being able to nuke the upper east coast. This is not historically accurate. france of course was sitting there masturbating. 38. twentybois0 1 hr. http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/06/ler-ukraine-and-the-baltics-euromaidan-press/. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. If it is possible in EU4 it should be possible here. Archived post. This is exactly what will happen if you wait around too long and there is nowhere else for them to fight. I always found it weird that regardless of how much of an army that is still fighting and loyal, the only qualification for capitulation is victory points. I have succesfuuly invade France in 1937. 48.
Reddit - Dive into anything Archived post. Add a Comment. UK colonies also still not belong to me even after they capitulate. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. JavaScript is disabled. I tend to take my time over occupying the UK with a strategy of total air and naval depletion before invading. Archived post. 19 comments. So my friend and I played with UK and US. Cookie Notice Depends if a nation in your faction has a chance to bring you back. For more information, please see our Beware of the supply, it's your biggest enemy. It should say something like 'won't surrender till defeat of majors: NAME, NAME, NAME'.
You can pick their divisions off a little at a time to thin them out a bit before invading. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742044249.
r/hoi4 on Reddit: I keep capitulating even though I still had my With kaiser Germany, last time I take Mexico, in the middle I was stop. i would like something as make the peace not the war mod into game mechanic. All rights reserved. I ideally wanted Japan to go and deal with them but the Ai seems very reluctant so I now have to ship an army over there just to end the game. I would also like to be able to make peace with nations after they have failed in their invasion against me. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. There is a reason why they didn't surrender in WW2 you know. So I've been watching quite a bit of Hoi4 streams and VODS since the embargo has been lifted and I'm wondering why capitulation and occupied territory defaults to the old style of whatever you occupied in war is occupied territory. do they become my own? 1 Reply ErickFTG 6 yr. ago I think only the land armies on their homeland will disband when they capitulate.
All rights reserved. It is important that in this process you landing areas generate practical supply enclaves and are defended by forces that are difficult to push back without large scale repeat attacks. If it was real life, I highly doubt that the british would continue to invade after seeing such high losses in men compared to mine. Hey, here's a tip on gow to cap the Brits fast. This is for a number of reasons. That should be an option. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Build up these bases as they are staging areas for your invasion forces so need adequate supply. When I get into Texas they spread and I can push into the chaos. and our
I love that I made the UK capitulate before Poland : r/hoi4 - Reddit But a few months after that, Vichy troops suddenly invade Egypt and take away some states there.
r/hoi4 on Reddit: I finally managed to capitulate the UK after a long Try taking over everywherre in Western Europe including Eire and the UK, India and the whole of Africa but you no-one will surrender because the US is just sitting across the Atlantic twiddling its thumbs Why? Rule 1: Defend the Line. If you were playing as Germany, declared war on Poland and they joined the Allies, any leftover Polish army/navy that ran away before they capitulate will still continue to fight for the Allies until you reach a peace conference. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. HOI4: Capitulation and occupied territory. Or if Japan got off its rear end and invaded them before you had to do it from Europe. Valve Corporation. Cookie Notice I was a TGC modder.
Peace conference - Hearts of Iron 4 Wiki I would also like to be able to make peace with nations after they have failed in their invasion against me.
Why do i get capitulated here? : r/hoi4 - Reddit HOI4: Capitulation and occupied territory : paradoxplaza - Reddit But now that I've done that they are only at 45% capitulation ?? Countries in HOI4 are either major countries or minor countries. I was a TGC modder. It should say something like 'won't surrender till defeat of majors: NAME, NAME, NAME'. Then I attacked down the St. Lawrence and out of Nova Scotia with more landings and used nukes against some unit stacks. Their invasion plans have failed and I think they should surrender .
There is a Way to make the Allies surrender? I think countries should stop fighting after they have surrendered. ago. i tried like 5 playthroughhs and i penetrated a bit and couldnt go further its so insanely hard for no reason (i got rid of the marco polo bridge debuff btw) 63. What if the Allies lost the Battle of the Bulge? It's more a long, then an actually though job attack from any direction you might think of, build up the supply-infrastructure (including harbors) wherever and as fast as you can, avoid any allies because they will flood your frontline with useless divisions and consume all of your supplies.
Allies won't surrender :: Hearts of Iron IV General Discussions Usually you can just overrun them after breaking their lines with tanks over and over. Cartographer, celeste. This is because it is much easier to defeat the US forces around the UK and North West Europe than have to face them undepleted in North America. 1 Triggers 2 Setup 3 Score 4 Turns 5 AI 5.1 Democratic 5.2 Communist 5.3 Fascist 5.4 Non-aligned 6 Resolution Triggers Most typically a peace conference gets triggered by a country losing so many victory points that it is forced to capitulate and subsequently surrender.
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