And they're not doing it in a smart way. You don't have to use formaldehyde. It will have been the best thing that ever happened. It's one animal, you know, so just the sheer whatever mixing, you know, so you know for sure we don't know a lot about this virus. So I think there is an afterlife. The abundance here is is through the roof. That's why, you know, we we have the phrase respecting the thickness of the pig, the chickens of the chicken. No, no, no. And and the federal forests are atrocious. I mean, we already know that, you know, suicides are up. It just I mean, that kind of stress plays a big factor with people's immune systems all the time. Hmm. 40 years ago, it was 18 mm. So as a farmer all this nomenclature is real. So, so so we've gone now from, you know, that that white hot three and a half percent unemployment to now, what, eighteen and a half. In Italy it's it's only I think eight, 18 or 20 percent, something like that. So that's the power of integration, that's the power of of of proximity, of actual putting stuff close, you know, so they wouldn't have an egg industry because everyone would be grown. No, no, we don't. Joe Rogan Self - Host Joel Salatin Self - Guest All cast & crew Production, The Joe Rogan Experience (2009 ) Joel Salatin is an American farmer, lecturer, and We're not asking them to pick up the tab for, you know, for cheating, for for cutting, for cutting corners. We'll pause right here. And so you're right. And sometimes. We're going to appreciate what it's like to to do stuff, to be able to go outside, to go to a restaurant, to go to a public gathering and have a picnic. You buy. If we so if so, in our 60 years of being there in polyphasic, we have gone from one percent to eight over eight percent, let's just say that's seven clicks, seven times twenty is one hundred and forty thousand gallons of water per acre. She was farming 18 backyards, had a part time employee, was a full time farmer. And people realize, like, hey, maybe this isn't the best idea to live like this. I mean, they've led the let this thing forever. But guess what, those are in two hundred seventy five bird shelters that are moved every day across pastures. Well, they came to that conclusion because they looked at old people who got it that might have possibly lived, you know, seven, eight years, five years or more. All of a sudden in the last two months, he's got 18 new co-sponsors because of this. His latest book, co-authored with Dr. Joe Rogan Experience - Best of The Week of March 30, 2014 edited by Mischief Makers Productions ( JRE #478 - Eddie Bravo - JRE #479 - Joel Salatin - JRE #480 - Duncan Trussell & DJ Douggpound -, Joel Salatin is an American farmer, lecturer, and author whose books include "Folks, This Ain't Normal" "You Can Farm" and "Salad Bar Beef". That's amazing. And one of the reports that just came out last week was that in New York, the people who continued working actually had less, less whatever positives to the virus than the people who sheltered. I'm suggesting that a carbon economy is one of many, many. Thanks. And edible, you know, hunting, edible, wild things. I was one of the interesting ones I was on was in St. Louis. Joel refers to himself as a 'lunatic farmer' because so many of the changes Yeah, well, ours is done on the same property. I mean, there's a ton of agricultural diseases, you know, that are based from these factory farm situations where these animals live in these really horrific conditions. And when you do download the cash app and you will because it's fucking awesome, use the promo code. They're like maybe maybe they don't come up with one that's effective. There's a reason why rural America has a bigger opioid problem than than urban America. All right. Hmm. And now, I mean, my my driver that picked me up from the airport last night, you know, he said he said. And so the only place where people are coming shoulder to shoulder, thousands every day are in these mega processing facilities, trees. And we now know archaeologically digging up skeletons. But stay home because you're not really grown adult. WebJoel Salatin is an American farmer, lecturer, and author whose books include "Folks, This And he said, All I've been doing is inside the house watching Netflix. Get in your kitchen. They were feeding like, you know, 30 families out of this old crack house foundation. And the beautiful thing is that this this is not that difficult to bring back. Well, yeah, you can get losses from from Raptors, but we use guard geese, their guard dogs, guard llamas. And so not only did they eliminate the landfill waste, all these people now suddenly had chickens and passed, done all the math on this and shows that if one in three households had enough chickens to eat your kitchen scraps, there would not be a there would not be an egg industry in the United States. Yes. How am I going to developing a robust immune system? You know, one of the things that that farmers like me that that direct market to people, one of our concerns, I mean, I don't I don't talk a lot about it, but one of our concerns is that our that our food, for example, our chicken, we don't immerse it in chlorine, you know, so it actually has its living food and. And she's and she's saying E. coli, salmonella, you know, bovine spongiform encephalopathy. OK, so we did a little test and found out you have not had it. So I'm not all I'm saying is that right now our corn crop in the US, what is 30 percent goes to goes to alcohol for fuel. So so imagine imagine if if we end this, what we would doing on our farm is every time we get a few extra dollars, we build another pond. Don't you get a lot more loss, though, due to Raptors and things along those lines? Most of us are dehydrated because the water tastes bad? I mean, it's it's a very it's a high risk situation for us. I did a post the other day. And and essentially, the war was finally won when when they burned all the crops in the Shenandoah Valley. If there's one really positive thing to come out of this pandemic, I hope that it's a restructuring of what's valuable in life. It's a different relationship. I mean, there's nothing like a cool morning and a big old fat asparagus, you know, an inch thick. That was it. It simply accelerates or brings into focus a trend that was already there. So so the important thing to realize is that the the prohibition here is not on the in fact, our neighbor can even buy it legally. Sure. Joe Rogan Experience #1478 Joel Salatin. But if you go to Trager grills dotcom Joe use the code Rogan at checkout to get free shipping on all orders. He'll customize it to what I want, put a chassy under it, drive it to my place, put it on four pillars, it's not even a building, so no building permit required. But no, I mean our principles. Thank you, Joe. Yeah. Think about this. But you know my my thing is that look, I don't want I don't want a bunch of people to die, but but the fact is that that death is is transformative. Well, you know, whenever I watch a newscast and watch, you know, the daily, like, you know, coronavirus briefing from the White House. And so I mean the the they're not getting salad, they're not getting any vitamin D from the sunshine. Great place to teach your kids. You know, it's a it's one hundred and twenty horsepower diesel engine that can that can chip nineteen inch. Yes. During this time of change, we want you to know that zip recruiters focus has not changed. And it's it's good for your nutrition, it's good for your soul, it's good for your spirit in a time where everybody's concerned about death, surround yourself with something that's growing. Thank you, friends, for tuning in to the show. Right. It's not the production. You don't have them. I mean right now you can go out and during hunting season and you can shoot a deer. There are a lot of issues that you that you don't have. They they open Wal-Mart and close the farmer's market. His blog is thinking inside the box because this thing is black in a box instead of if we had sales for over 150000 chickens. Finally, I can go somewhere. Isn't it also that when you say the word we got, there's so many of us and so many people are already invested in doing these jobs that are actually counterproductive for nature. Really appreciate it. He's had it in for five years. Lunatic Farmer Joel Salatin: No Freedom Without Participation Places are opening up comedy clubs again at half capacity. But there's every kind of like, you know, like patio tube, herb garden with little pockets in it, you know, and you grow all of your own herbs, beehives on your house, roof. I'm sure I've done numerous Zoome things lately more than ever. So so when we look at the megafauna that was here, you know, the fact is that the planet used to have more animal weight on it than it does today with all the animals, all the factory farms and all the people. Everybody stocked up the freezers to be able to stockpile. He needs to get out and go stick his hand and boom, don't you think that I mean, I don't know if this is true, but I would imagine that the immune system is like your cardiovascular system and needs a workout. They'd have a little mini Central Park in every neighborhood. So most likely your first line of defense since you have been in contact with people that have had it, the first line of defense beat it. The way from the cheese goes into the into the pigs. Hey, how about how about have you forgiven everybody? But if you're if you're reducing flooding and using that in a drought to keep vegetation growing when there's so much sunlight, then you're actually increasing the commons. I mean, there look, if you ate in your toilet, it would be like your toilet every day. "The Joe Rogan Experience" Joel Salatin (Podcast Episode 2014) So you know, in this whole thing like you, I've been, I've been screaming, let's talk about the immune system, you know, so so I literally I literally have not been sick a day basically in twenty years. I mean, our our our meat doesn't do drugs, OK? Look at that. Right. Sure. Kids kind of know her nature, knows that. And one of the trends that's been happening in this country now for 20 years is a bifurcation of access between rural and urban to the Internet, like on our farm. You know, how do we how do we go forward? Food deserts is a big, big problem. Yeah. I mean, if we start. I mean, let me explain it this way. And and the fact is that you don't have to watch the news very much to know that farm suicide is spiking. And so so then so then the chickens don't need the corn from the cornfields so the fields can be turned back into prairie to feed herbivores, which now would be cows, not bison. Well, let's let's make sure we each drink half a gallon a day. You don't have to truck your guts to a rendering plant. When when when eagle. I don't think we've scratched the surface as to what thinking I'm going to build my immune system. WebJoel F. Salatin (born February 24, 1957) is an American farmer, lecturer, and author. I mean, how many kids in elementary school did you know that had food allergies? I don't agree with that opinion. Oh, isn't that interesting how those of inverted variance, those are converted in rough in roughly 40 years, ever since the US dollar called the U.S. dollar created the food pyramid and put Twinkies and Cocoa Puffs on the bottom as a foundational. We're also brought to you by my favorite motherfucking sunglasses, Roka. And it jams the whatever the you know, the the honing devices of a of a missile. And we're worry that during this time we haven't been encouraging people to build up their immune system. But to do a chicken or a pig or a cow at all on your own and and sell that, what is what is it about about selling something that suddenly turns it from benign to hazardous? That's right. It's you know, it's it's what phenotypically and physiological distinctiveness in humans. I mean, I think we do know that it came out of Wuhan, but but you know, just how I mean, we're not sure. It is. And in fact, Governor Cuomo was it was interesting, his reaction the other day when he got the report, the data now there's, you know, more data coming out every day. I mean all that's changing the landscape a lot. Really? And we've got to we've got to have enough land base to scale and we need we need a bigger team. I think I think they have to at least put me in the ground or something. And these three young couples had come together and they had they had purchased an old it was an old crack house that the city bulldozed. In fact, ZIP Recruiters app will send you up to date job openings so you can be one of the first to apply. We're not going to sell it at Wal-Mart. You know, right now, 50 percent of the cases of diarrhea in the U.S. are caused by food borne bacteria. Yeah, but but one that I just saw again this week was that every every percent increase in unemployment equals 30000 deaths in our country annually, every one percent unemployment, economic suicide, depression, whatever. And the same with the chickens. It's a it's a small facility. And these three couples. A guy sits across from her on aisle on the opposing aisle, and she asks him to move over to the window. We're not. They're coming from other countries looking for, you know, the American dream. I mean, just the the the bacteria that exudes from vegetation and the ecology of plants. So so, you know, if all those people go back to work that have been furloughed, you restaurants and things like that, it'll be OK. You feed your microbiome to anybody, take you up on that offer. That's the comments. 21 May 2020 Transcribe your podcast [00:00:00] Hello, friends, welcome to And and I'm just watching this play out, of course, I'm trying to, you know, keep my glasses from fogging up with my mask and my face, you know, and I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah. No, you know, they're always right there. So, you know, give you money so that they would have definite access to food, deftest different access for food first. So it's the processing. People who never would have darkened our door or asked us for anything. She was she was right on, OK? And what the prime act would do, it would allow it would allow uninspected custom processed meat in state to be sold by the piece. What you have is a fundamentally decentralized, we could even say democratized. They're on. Whoa, so so. I mean, you're Polly Face Farms, right? Spain. How how can we employ all the people? I mean, not the flu, not a cold, not I mean just nothing and and I'm sixty, sixty three. That's our average in our country. But then the problem with that is if you look at the overall numbers, the average age that people die from coronavirus is actually older than the average age people die, which is like, well, what do you say in that? Well, there's there are now bourgeoning around the country. But how would you how do you grow enough corn? Of that part of life, yeah, I think it speaks to what you were talking about earlier, that they look at death as some sort of a failure instead of just a part of the natural cycle. And if I if I may go a little just one other little thread on this whole thing, again, thinking about, well, where are you? You can buy them cheap scrap metal because China makes everything chips at here and we don't ship anything back, but, you know, microchips. That's true. And it's it's a real issue, particularly with highly sweetened, highly processed foods that are the things they crave there and also their gut biome. We don't have enough we've got way more demand. My immune system needs your bugs, your immune system, these my bugs. That's the best way to describe cooking with it, but far more advanced. And his has you know, his he's the doctor has been around many, many people that have had it. But and then look at the cost of health care when the cost of food is higher and food is higher quality. The problem is not at the farm level. There's a sweet spot here. The cost of health care drops in an equal number. The apps are awesome. Right. The fact is that junk food is not cheap, junk food is expensive. She said, Would you mind if I grew up like a 10 foot by 10 foot garden in your backyard? And so I sit down. So, for example, I mean, you started the discussion with in Los Angeles, you know, is there enough land to feed Los Angeles? There's a lot of that. You know, there's there are implications. Eagles in particular. Think about if that occupied your mind. And and ultimately, what we're looking for is a habitat that allows, you know, each life form, whether it's a plant or an animal, to fully express what we call it, you know, expressing the bigness of the pig or the cheekiness of the chicken. I mean, if you just give a rough percentage, if you're thinking about food production right now, what the current situation. That's that's how they eat your their breathing in their fecal particulate matter, which is, you know, putting lesions in their tender respiratory membranes, making making lesions there. But our impression of the feedback we've gotten is just, oh, relief. Yeah, but yeah. Yes. Joe Rogan. And so they're living in crowded conditions because they're trying to save every penny to send home to get, you know, uncle and aunt and other family members here from Ethiopia, Somalia, you know, wherever it is. Yeah, right. And I mean, we talk about price, interestingly, our our whole chicken price. But but, boy, fear. In in Italy. You know, the pandemic has been primarily an urban situation, but the opioid crisis has been primarily a rural situation. And you have circles, not linear, not linear thinking. And so now our people are getting scared. Mac, you know, the average poultry processing plant in our area, they say that every job can be learned in 20 minutes. Right. But you can buy two pounds of our ground meat for the price of that whole meal. You know, dandelions, lamb's quarters, mushrooms. Absolutely. And we do, you know, mountains and mountains of compost. Maybe we should have paid attention. I mean, the the and this is one of the reasons that we're having this I think this this blowback from nature is that instead of having a fundamentally integrated system, I mean, think of how in Switzerland, you know, the take take the cows up to the mountain pastures they milk and the milk flows down at the end, they make cheese up there. Well, a lot. And and they're feeding the worm beds. It's not that we don't have money for it. You're on a hay wagon. I met this lady 18 months after this initial conversation with her friend. Joe Rogan Experience #1478 Joel Salatin, Best of The Week March 30, 2014 Joe Rogan Experience. That's fine. They're available online. I mean, you know, butcher it, package it, whatever, feed it to your children. Well, that takes more energy than the than the fuel we get. Or you're trying to do schoolwork from home. They were dwelling on I mean, they were watching news all day, if you watch the media all day, you are you are scared to death, OK? So ethanol. And and now we have the data and again these data points mean we've all become, I think through this, more wary of statisticians. And they got hit hard as well, right? JREPodcast.com does not claim ownership over any published material, unless clearly noted. The doctors that push and that he's a biome expert? There I mean, there are there are certainly people that are very vulnerable. Kashyap is also the easiest way to buy and sell Bitcoin, so what the fuck are you waiting for? And tomorrow everybody. And so so now we're not by any means the game, that game in town. And for, you know, for 30 years, we were the only game in town that was fun. So don't forget, use the promo code. You know, the people who were sheltering. So what you're saying is is long, but is the regulatory process in place to make sure that people are using the proper sanitation methods, making sure that the animals are healthy, making sure that all these things are in place so that unscrupulous characters don't take advantage of the system and then screw over the consumer and the consumer gets sick. I didn't sleep real good at all for maybe the first few days of lockdown till I sort of calmed down and realized I'm not going anywhere. I think pretty pretty sure that's what it is. I just can't sell it. I mean, it's asinine. Yeah, we're not. Right. Well, I mean, they're like the coolest machine that scares the shit out of me. I mean, when this when this all broke, we sent we sent a letter out to our customers saying, hey, come to the farm, take off your shoes, walk barefoot through the pasture. Let's talk about how you build immunity and the fact that we're in the middle of this and we've still got the Coke trucks running up and down the road. Having the best, best year we've ever had, it is the it is the it's the industrial mega system that's cracking. Right. They they can't zero in. Oh, oh, we better not have any peanuts. The easiest way to send money between your friends and family without having to hold that paper cash that dirty paper. If you're looking for a job, Zipp recruiters going to find you a job faster. Wow. I mean, it's the ultimate, you know, boy toy. So that's what happens, strong relationship with people growing up. There's no no whatever. The same can be said about these factory farms that situations. I mean, the other morning I was out in the garden picking asparagus. That's our fertilizer factory. Right. Nobody. And as you know, as we go forward with this thing, I, I look at this and say, well let's let's let's at least wipe ourselves off and say, OK, what can I learn from this, what can we learn from this going forward and. So she did, but then plot started a garden. Yeah. We just put all the costs in all our all our costs are in. Right. It's unnatural for people to be stuffed into a warehouse right next to each other, shoulder to shoulder, working all day. Not I mean, not for a whole community like this. And one of the things that they've found through using satellite imaging and when they're trying to detect methane, they're finding it's landfills, that these landfills are a huge, huge problem in terms of greenhouse gases. And I don't want to go down that rabbit hole either of I'm a I'm a pretty libertarian, you know, drug. A few of us are hermits, but not very many. Through this program, they have raised a shitload of money and have built several wells, and they're in the process of building several more right now. And I've got a little federal perspective processing facility that I can do, you know, one hundred and fifty thousand chickens a year, OK? There was a lot of fear. We you know, we barely can do it. No, no. You know, the the overall big picture of health for you, health for the food. I can't give you names right now, but I'm like you. Everybody have their own eggs. Ethanol is a byproduct of what we used to think that we needed ethanol exist without running out of gas. My wife's grandmother spent her last year in a lady's home who is allowed to keep three people as elder care. You can get you can get rolled crimped oats by the 50 pound bag. The beef, instead of coming out of a feedlot, it's coming off the prairie like the bison did, and suddenly you're building soils that are losing soil and your production doesn't change one iota. No, no, absolutely. Which, you know, you look at that and you say, well. Fear spawns things that we can't even imagine, what is it like where you are in Virginia, as are restaurants open? Here's my point. And the whole who we call the Homestead Arts, there's a there's a big conference that happens every year in the East. You would require much more people. We've gone in we've gone from one percent organic matter to over eight percent organic matter in the soil and every one percent holds another 20 thousand gallons of water per acre. Visit Trager Grills Dotcom Shgo. They're not they're not eating well. You've got Augur's chains, feed bins, electrical connections, dust. The prohibition is both on seller and buyer. It's like the money. We've got millions. Hairdressers are back to work. Who knows where it's been. Not that the government could have ever taken that away, but anyway, that's that's that's the lesson there. Like, what are you doing and how is it possible? You know, you don't have to use drugs, antibiotics.