Additional custom settings via RS-232. cheers, The thing is just that the power plant is in the shed, which is 50m away from the house, cables are laid already, and there is no provision for a low voltage cable. The tristar PWM controllers are just a bit more sophisticated in their battery management than a simple relay-based controller you could make as a project. I hope that helps. In most cases the Tristar controller in diversion mode is the best solution for a wind turbine. I also wonder (for the diversion controller) if the sensing terminals can be wired across the battery while the main power feed can be connected directly to the incoming 48v so the diversion current does not have to go through the charge controller first. any though, if the voltage is going too high this may be due to the wind turbine. hi Short thermal paths and no fans blowing across circuit boards prevent dust, insects and corrosion. The water element on the website says that I should not go higher of 75 % of the 817 watts We offer this add on option to users and installers of the MPPT 45 , 60 products and the older existing Tristar TS-45 and TS-60 PWM installations. Alert when short circuit, over current, high voltage, and other errorconditions take place. If electrical, then my concern would be how this affect the batteries and the inverter. The maximum safe output of that otherpower design is about 500 watts. Hi Ian, I do take your point re the inductance but this 3 phase alternator is rectified with a 3phase bridge rectifier and to filter the spikes has a capacitive filter which should cancel the inductance and isolate the tristar from the alternator. But you have set the temp comp to zero apparently. Have a TS-MPPT45, 48v config, 500w solar, Voc 100. This occurs even at no load. When the controller switches off the connection (to limit the charging current) the hydro is disconnected and will run faster, increasing the wear and tear. Even if the pwm voltage is higher on the second controller it should still go to EQ once per month so long as the dip switch is set for that. The grounds (when open) are open from 2.00pm to 6.00pm. hi Georgios, hi Anja, At 14 volts this will draw 18.7 amps and dissipate 260 watts. the rate of charge of the battery is controlled by bleeding off some current to a diversion load via the tristar. 4 12 volt battery 100 amps /hours deep cycle This will regulate the battery very precisely and allows for the turbine producing a bit more than it is rated to. thanks again for the help and advise Hi, I want to run an eclectic energy D400 24V wind turbine with approximately 500W of solar panels. Hello, Morningstar sources the highest quality parts which promotes proven reliability and performance. Have fun! If the Tristar shuts down, or its load fail to work then your battery could ultimately explode. I will run all the lights and fridge and water pump. 4-stage charging keeps batteries in top condition, Accept loads to same ratings as charge currents, Two USB-A ports for charging multiple mobile phones/tablets, Provides system and controller information, data loggingand bar graphs, 30m of cable for mounting away from the controller, Displays systems information, logged data, alarm and errors, May be mounted in the wall or on the wall including frame, 4 independent relay driver outputs (relays not included), Used for high/low voltage alarms, load control, generator start, Reads digital data inputs for TriStar or TriStar MPPT, Improves battery charging by using temperature at the battery for very accurate temperature compensation. Thats the basic layout. Hugh. PWM means pulse width modulation and the controller sends pulses of DC to the resistor. Possibly there are some inductive kicks off the alternator winding when the tristar does its switching. opend the 4 screws of the bottom of the turbine where the mounting pole fitted. We continually strive to keep our quality and reliability at an industry-record high. I have a simple question: If you turn off the MPPT then the battery voltage will fall and the PWM will start, so that is normal. Dump loads are often driven with PWM (is this what you mean) which is a string of pulses and this would not be suitable to feed into any controller. I would expect the tristar to have an inductor in the circuit to limit the inrush current for each pulse so the battery should be better protected in this mode. In addition to my wind turbine I would like to install solar panels for charging the batteries. For the most recent manual revisions, see the version at: Solar charging system controller (39 pages), Solar charging system controller (4 pages), Tristar mppt 150v Hugh. You can use a windmaster with a 48-V winding in the turbine. Any comments appreciate or any other solution The PV system reduces the power input when full battery charge is reached and trickes it into the batteries as I think you said often happens in another post (we have no power dump system in place but we have plenty of options). Would a boost converter be realistic to charge the 48v battery bank from the 24v turbine? If I use zero-crossing, burst firing instead then that makes the light flicker. I have a hydro setup with a Tristar TS-45 as my primary diversion load controller. Connect all of the batteries together as one and keep them charged up (until the wind stops and you need to use them). I would say that if you want to get to see your Tristar MPPT on the internet then you will need to enable port forwarding for it in your router software. 2 off 1 on I will experiment in winding options and may find that there is a better combination for the lower voltage and higher current but keeping the power at an optimum. On a wind system you should use it to control a dump load so as to limit the current to the battery by diverting some to dump. Id set that a bit higher based on the manufacturers recommended charging voltage, but at least 28.4 volts. IP65, UV resistant case.Epoxy encapsulated and watertight connection to the module junction box. Buscot - Towns & Villages in Oxfordshire - Visit South East England Fewer components equal lower failure. PDF TriStar MPPT Default Charging Programs - Morningstar Corporation I am not quite up to speed on this, sorry. presumably in series. Why not give the batteries a full charge up to 14.4 or so volts with your wind and solar? Hugh. Maximum power point trakcing provides an increase of amps from the solar array into the battery. 1 resistor dumpload box of 6 resistor of 5 homs in parallel 690 watts hi hugh, 4. I come back to you with another issue which is related to this article. / 51.677; -01.667. But as above I would strongly advise over-voltage protection for the MPPT unit if the hydro can exceed the controllers max Voc. Morningstar Tristar MPPT Controller 60A, 150V - solar & wind the regulator is the tristar ts 45 in mode derivation on a resistance of 1 ohms 1000 watts and two battery 12v 110 ampere. Id say the best for you is to use a tristar connected to a water heater that works at 48 volts. im still waiting for my magnet to arrive, so cant say anything about my system yet So what would be the best resister to have ? Yes indeed I often do this. OK now how to run the fan heaters or aircon? They may not always agree but the differences will not be significant, so you can ignore them. The solution is the set dip switches 2 and 3 to suit your battery. i need you help , i have a solar system with 4 batteries of 12 v , a Tristar controleur TS-60 and a onduler 48v/220 3kva. If you must have a single fuse on the battery (or a battery switch) then make sure that the wind turbine is disconnected (and/or shorted out by its brake switch) before you open that switch. Its not clear to me whether you have a battery. document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Morningstar Corporation. I dont have much experience of boat systems with 2 batteries but the tristar is only designed to charge one. Buscot was part of Berkshire until the 1974 boundary changes transferred it to Oxfordshire. The default temperature compensation can make surprisingly large changes to the voltage. How can I ensure that both, the wind and the solar system are feeding in, even if they might have different output voltages. You need a stand-alone inverter to get AC from your battery. Additional information about MSView can be found in Morningstar Product Connectivity Manual (Section:MSView). regards. OK i suspect that the voltage at the battery is higher than the voltage at the Tristar due to losses in the wiring. document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Morningstar Corporation. DIP Switches Number 2,3 - System Voltage: Load and Diversion switch settings can be found in Appendixes 1 and 2. Hugh. This is what I have now. Or go for the 600V controller but that is rather expensive. Can you comment on the feasibility of using two Schnieder or Tristar controllers, both in load diversion capability? no, Its a 12v battery, and ive tried manually changing it. thanks for the fast reply, there is no fault signal in the lights, it just light them normaly the batteries life span maybe short i believe . thanks tristar mppt 60 stuck in night mode northernarizona-windandsun Its a nice product and has increased the output of my wind turbine slightly. 2+3 what should they be for 12v system I tough about that but wasnt surethks Dear sir, have fun Hugh, Hi again, DIP Switch SettingsIf des Robert. Are you still selling the TriStar controllers? Hugh I went to dump wasted energy in to.grid tie power inverter with dump load controller Hugh how do you get 500 Watts This is frum the Progetto generatore eolico da 1 KW This is a 10 foot diameter turbine conservatively rated at 800 Watts, although the alternator has proven to withstand sustained output of 1000 Watts in bench testing. We connect to 4.2 kw solar system with 3.5 kw inverter and 2.4 kw battery grid tied. I built your 3.0 m 800W turbine with a group of skilled Camerounians to electrify a village in the mountaneous north-western region of Cameroun. All good fun. Craig (Madagascar), Hi Hugh, Im planning on buying a Tristar TS45 for an off-grid set-up and would like to know if the following would work? 12-20V, I want to connect 3x Solar panel in parallel, and put schotky diode to connect with wind turbine, with a 12V Battery, all this in diversion load (with Dump load 3x300W). Use 2 and 3 to configure the nominal battery voltage. They will then allow the other to EQ the battery. That way you can get access to the network settings without using the network. it is important to never exceed the manufacturers maximum charging You might get stuck on air heating if that controller decides to float the battery and the water heating controller is still trying to do an abosorption charge. Typically, a gel battery is recharged in cycling applications from The Morningstar dump to1000w grid tie power inverter with dump load controller Is this to big ?What size Amp meter ? Keep it well away from the controller itself too. Thank you. so when i make the test on very high wind speed, connect the turbine with multimeter and i had power 90volts. Any comment Is the pwm controller in diversion mode or solar mode? Any alternative suggestions would be highly appreciated! All rights reserved. The voltage is regulated in this way. TriStar MPPT MODBUS Specification - Morningstar Corporation. I try another meter with same voltage reading If you wish to avoid dumping power then do the opposite. 7 On 110Vac 3-phase when rectified will give you about 150Vdc. cheers mike. Its obviously a good idea to monitor the system carefully in case a blown FET does drain the battery but I actually cant remember this occurring to any system that I have been involved with. Use a relay with normally closed contacts to bypass this diode in normal conditions but when the generator comes on the relay is energised, contacts open and the supply to the sensing contacts is via the diode and hence about 0.7 volts lower than battery voltage. can you please inform if there is something not right? Given how informative this blog is, Im hopeful for some guidance. The SunSaver is the worlds leading small solar controller for industrial and leisure markets. open circuit voltage measured on the panels is 29.8v in full sun (tech sheet says 33.1 voc) Just connect the solar PV in parallel and then through the TS controller to the battery. Turbine connects directly to 24 volt battery.When the solar panel reach 29.2 and suddently there is wind or gust of wind (they was gust when the controller gave me a alarm or a diconnect so the inverter shut down at 31 voltso i need to restart it) the voltage went higher then 29.2. Learn more in our updated, New Integrated Series and DC Charging Components, Absorption, float and equalize charging, voltage, and time, ProStar / ProStar MPPT summary screen swap, Connection sharing between real-time data & setup wizards. TriStar Can you tell me, where did you get Charge controllers. I see charge control (diversion) as a separate issue from MPPT and I use a tristar for that. You need to understand what a diversion load controller actually is. The reason is to have wind charging at night then I set the inverter to run from batteries and not eskom, Hi Peter, Hugh. To help in the winter, I have lots of wind where I am. TriStar MPPT Training Program. I recieved the book yesterday and when it arrived I thought this isnt worth 12. Hugh. I have used custom wound toroidal transformers for this purpose. We continually strive to keep our quality and reliability at an industry-record high. 3 - Settings Switches The TriStar MPPT 150V controller should be installed by a qualified technician according to the Eight (8) settings switches to configure operation of the TriStar MPPT 150V electrical rules of the country in which the product will be installed. All very inefficient. Unique ON/OFF/ON settings conserve energy and turns light on furing the dayand LED indicates selected lighting option. I guess only MorningStar would know the answer to these questions I wish I had a way to contact them and ask ideas? And I see no benefit to it either. If they are all good cooks then the food will be good. OK now I see that your solar panels have Vmax=29.2. I suspect that the tristar works at a lower frequency than the LDR and so would need more capacitance to smooth the voltage ripple out.